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INTP男生和INFJ女生合适吗?! (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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感觉INTP男生对情感反应有点迟钝,也不善于表达。而INFJ女生似乎很需求一种soulmate的状态。
各位怎么看这个组合?

INTP特点总结【未完待续】 (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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看了很多关于INTP的资料,把自己认同的一些说法做个总结。
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想看原文请自行搜索。

ps.我果然是对解构和重构更感兴趣,摊手
pps.不要太相信我会继续更新这件事,毕竟我的执行力也就这么点
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1、内倾思维型。寻求精确,比如表达一个概念最合适的词。它注意到事物本质之间微不足道的差别,然后将它们分析并归类。Ti细查一个问题的每一面,寻找解决问题最不费力、风险最小的方法。

2、INTP最重要的就是专注和执行力。

3、INTP的社交焦虑只会来源于想方设法和围绕身边的那么多奇奇怪怪的人温和地拉开距离。

4、INTP不对任何人有偏见,他们公平地排斥着所有类型的人类。

5、如何逼死INTP:只要让他们和别人在一起,完全没有私人空间,不出三天,准奔溃,轻则发飙甩脸子,重则做出大逆不道危害社会的事。

6、INTP是随时准备洗脑的黑圣母。理论耍流氓什么的,INTP是王者,他们能做到把一个毫无道理的东西说得天衣无缝。

7、INTP的妥协是为了更好地让对方妥协,大概就是只有INTP自己认识到错了才会妥协。

8、论脑洞的能力,INTP说第二,没人敢说第一。他们甚至不能叫发散思维,应该算成是爆炸思维。

9、INTP不能忍受没有心灵互动的婚姻。

10、INTP更不能容忍不道德不善意的行为,但不代表他们是一群卫道士。

11、INTP最明显的气质就是“纯真”。他们给人的感觉就是一个“非常孩子气”的孩子。INTP往往都有精神洁癖,会觉得大人很脏、很世俗、很虚伪。

12、在爱情中,INTP不只追求真善美,他们还要戒、定、慧。在INTP的定义中爱应该是美好的、纯洁的东西,但所谓的爱一旦变得无趣、虚伪、令人烦躁时,INTP就会认为那不再是爱而想要放弃、逃离。

13、INTP爱较真,如果你输出的观念和他们的不同,又不给他们一个合理的解释,他们就会非常不高兴。INTP也许可以接受或者说理解一个坏人,但绝对不能接受一个不讲道理的人。如果他做了伤害你的事情,他会认真告诉你自己为什么要这么做;当然也不是为了求谅解,只是希望别人可以理解自己的奇特言行与思想。如果你不带着情绪和有色眼镜去看的话,会发现INTP说得都很有道理,他们在讲道理这方面总有一种天然的本能。

14、如果INTP很喜欢你,他会和你不时说一些他自己认为有趣的事情(就好像小孩子会在家里说学校的见闻一样),这就算是INTP的爱情表现了。喜欢你的时候就是像小喜鹊一样叽叽喳喳说个没完。

15、对INTP来说萝莉正太才是他们的小伙伴(他们不是恋童癖,而是真的把人家当有共同语言的同伴),而你是“不讨厌的大人”。

16、只想和思想层次比自己高的人聊天。

17、INTP会珍惜朋友但排斥约定做一辈子挚友。会全投入地面对友情但对方的突然离开激不起他们内心的丝毫波澜。

18、他们清楚滴知道和别人聊哪些自己不感兴趣的话题能把别人聊High。

19、精力充沛时可以在性格迥异的不同人面前自然表现出最能让他们放松的人格,自由切换,并以此为乐。

20、能觉察出有关陈述中的逻辑混乱 。

21、字斟句酌。集中精力寻找一个能恰好精确表述某项含义的合适措辞。

22、在分析有挑战性的难题或技术难关时倍感精力充沛。

23、倾向尝试寻找"通法"解决具体的问题。

24、将事/物拆分, 以弄清楚其中运作的原理是什么 。

25、对外部世界的支配欲望不是十分强烈,更愿意做一个追随者,而不是一个领导者,也就是权利欲不是十分旺盛。

26、喜欢用类比/隐喻来解释自己的想法。

27、看重自由辩论, 也相信自由辩论中得出的结论。

28、只对构建模型感兴趣。这个特点让intp在现实中很难找到相宜的事情来激发足够的动力。

29、INTP天然对感官不感兴趣。

30、“无意义”不代表反智,不代表不探索,不代表不能作为。相反“无意义”去掉了“意义”给ti带上的枷锁。虚无感对ti是一种养分,而对于那些不算长ti的类型来说就是毒药。

31、INTP是自我满足性格的人群。由code I 决定的,我们不需要外界给我们的关注,而达到满足感。我们自身可以达到自我满足和需求感。

32、只有在必要社交,我们才会大谈特谈,因为环境要求,有目的性的聊天。作为平时瞎扯淡,不需要瞎聊去维系感情的,我们是不讲废话的。

33、喜欢有条理和目的的交谈,而且可能会仅仅为了高兴。争论一些无益而琐细的问题,只有有条理的推理才会使他们信服。

34、他们重视才智,对于个人能力有强烈的欲望,有能力也很感兴趣向他人挑战。INTP型的人最主要的兴趣在于理解除了能够准确知道、接受和明显的事物之外的可能性。

35、他们能更好地组织概念和想法而不是人。

36、INTP型的人十分独立,喜欢冒险和富有想象力的活动。

37、更感兴趣的是发现有创见而且合理的解决方法,而不是仅仅看到成为事实的解决方式。

38、当他们把自己高度磨练过的批评性思考运用到周围的人身上时,他们直率的诚实会变为一种无意的伤害。

39、因为INTP型的人喜爱解决问题,所以往往他们会对常规的细节缺少耐心,而且如果一个计划需要过多的细节或持久贯彻,他们会失去兴趣而永远完成不了计划。

40、学会与别人分享感受会帮助他们获得更现实和客观的见解。

41、善于分析、总结、判断;善于从整体上把握事物;喜欢追根究底,力图抓住事物的本质;对文字、语言敏感;抽象思维能力强,能理解复杂的理论概念,善于将事情概念化,善于从中推断出原则或预测趋势;擅长策略性思维;会接受建设性的批评,而不把它当作针对个人的问题。

42、intj似乎都对自己的能力和智慧非常自信,一旦做出判断就相信自己的判断不易动摇。intp与之相比没有那么自信,对自己的判断有怀疑和不置可否的一面。我怀疑那些摇摆于intp和intj之间的都是intp。

43、INTP如果感受到外界给的压力,他们可能会积压,或者有时候会不安,或者尽量现实地去做一些抵抗性的完成。

44、INTP还是属于比较迷茫的类型,也不是很现实,有时候会觉得赚钱很重要,但也不会有特别大的动力。

45、INTp的主要兴趣就在于积累一种对于事物的深度理解, 他们极乐于追求关于"事物因何如此"的答案, 并试图探寻隐藏于一切事物之后的运作逻辑. INTp的原则是: 如果某"物"与逻辑原理无悖, 则可判其正确, 不然即为错误。

46、自己持有的逻辑体系是INTp最赋予自信也最不情愿修正的心理区域, 因而INTp的逻辑规则基本上是基础性的, 不可撼动的, 此即意味着他们解释几乎任何场景所采用的逻辑都是一致的。

47、INTp会倾向于参与到如"科学研究与发现, 发明, 改良, 理论阐释和哲学"方面的活动。

48、INTj会倾向于选择可以为之带来权势, 财富而有时却是颇具风险的环境, 相对的, INTp则倾向于能为其带来快乐感, 愉悦心情和令人振奋的环境。

49、对于INTp而言, "内向感知"(Si)的维度是他们的梦魇- "内向感知"(Si)主要是涉及躯体特征, 肌体功能和5种基本感觉, 因此, INTp唯一刻意平衡"内向感知"(Si)功能的方法就是努力保持身体健康, 如果你觉得这对你而言不是很重要的事情的话, 那你基本上就不太可能是INTp了。相对而言, INTj试图平衡的功能维度是"内向情感"(Fi)- 这是关于爱, 情欲和伦理的维度. 因此, 与某人建立情感联系, 树立一个情恋的对象 以及坚持善待众人的态度对于INTj维持心理平衡非常重要, 同时, 如果你对此不感兴趣的话, 那你也不大可能是INTj。

50、Si的侧重在于"方式-结果"。Si关注的核心也就在于"肢体和心理的运转。以我个人为例, 在绝大多数的时间里我确实是有一种焦躁的倾向, 试图寻找一种能够直接导向我所需要的结果的方法。

51、Si/Ni的区别决定了INTP适合耐心瞄准的静物狙击, INTJ适合快速击发的移动射击. 因此, (我个人认为)在需要快速反应的事件上, INTP其实远不如INTJ玩得来。

52、Ne使得INTP对外界环境主直觉, 所以INTP做任何事情的时候随时能对现状的发展衍伸出很多可能的图景, 但不能确定哪个最优的, 需要Ti来分析, 而且需要独立一个人的分析, 这就得耗费大量时间, 所以我们才看到INTP往往不能很快给出结论 -加之Fe使得INTP容易在压力之下盲目决定, 所以Ti-Ne(INTP)型避免犯错的模式即是避免遭遇应急状况。

53、因为Si的"方式-结果"更像一种"单向施加影响"的思维模式, 这就使得此类人的世界观有更多一些"征战"的意味, 因为其似乎并不太高兴自己受到别人的影响, 而更乐意于看到(或认为更应该)是自己在影响别人, 这是INTP的一个典型态度, 刻印&kiki 翻译的那篇profile中提到"INTP十分捍卫自己独立的决定权, 即使明明是接受了别人的建议, 但也要让它看起来是我自己想出来并愿意这样做的"也印证了这一点. 由此, Si也就会对外界的影响经常抱有一种对抗(defend)的态度, 在Si眼中大概是, "如果我不能改变世界, 那么世界就会改变我"。

54、Si的行为趋势就是从基本的东西做起, 一点点做到更复杂的, Si会认为这种行为本身(还包括人际关系)就是它在改造世界的证明。

55、在现实中, Si如果在实践中取胜的经历越多, 它也就越敢肯定自己的价值, 因此, Si是会倾向于寻求不断的获得那种"证明", 为自己不断的积累正面的经历的, 因为这个是Si自信的源泉. 这一点在INTP身上也会体现。

56、INTP对于成就感的渴求其本人应该是能够明确感知到的. 话说INTP有时候的确是比较犯贱的那种人, 因为其往往在面对压力和困难时, 才能够积极而兴奋的面对问题, 能够集中精力认真分析和研究问题, 然而, 当处于持续的不成功时, 心理上又会产生压力和恐慌感, 若压力过大或时间过长而得不到疏导, INTP也会变得愤世嫉俗, 否定和消极地批判一切, 会做无意义的争论和辩解, 以不适当的方式向外发泄情绪却事后又为此感到尴尬。

57、由于没有Si却有Se, INTJ在比INTP普遍更热爱运动的同时却很少会担心自己的身体状况如何. 说到运动, 大概是因为反应速度的差别, INTJ一般相比于INTP不仅更乐意运动, 而且更喜欢从事快节奏且高对抗性的体育活动, 比如足球, 篮球等, 与此不同, INTP(不管其心里怎么想的)实际上更多私人的节奏不快的活动, 如游泳, 自行车, 射击, 慢跑。

58、经历就是Si的一切, Si需要经历来提醒自己它还有生命力。

59、INTP首先会觉得世界是多么美好啊, 然后才发觉有些事情自己还是有点不能适应, 但是INTP是不逃避的, 就像先前说的Si总是想找到能得到结果的方法, 所以, Si觉得麻烦不是因为逃不掉, 而是不知道怎么处理, Ne的好奇心是鼓励INTP什么都试一下的, 所以对于权术, 金钱, 肉体欲望, 社会的种种黑暗这些INTP是并不避讳的, 有时还很有兴趣, 且如果有机会的话, 它也会考虑去试一试。

60、Si对于自己身上的种种细节都是多加注意的(我有时候就会因为心口突然疼一下吓个半死), 但是对于外部世界却是多抱着好奇心和怀疑态度看待的。

61、Si一般对什么都持保留(怀疑)态度, 从不会完全相信什么。

62、INTP非常不热衷于社会活动,比如各种传统节日庆祝活动,时尚party,纯娱乐节目。

63、大多数时候INTP是比较好相处的人,这其实很大程度上是因为他们对不需要复杂分析和思考的日常生活并不是非常关心,因为无所谓,所以就随遇而安,绝大多数琐碎的,日常的,现实的事情往往被INTP认为意义不大而忽视,他们更喜欢陶醉在自己的高难度的思想世界中感受着自己有能力触及和揭示世界运转本质的那种体验(有点“众人皆醉我独醒”的感觉)。

64、INTP在交流中的另一个经常被提到的缺点就是对别人在感情上需要什么非常不敏感。

65、INTP中的很多人出于对科学方面的兴趣,往往会在学校里担任科研或者教学方面的工作,然而虽然他们自身造诣很深,却很难成为最优秀的老师(比如陈景润),很多NT都有这个问题,但相对来说INTP这方面的倾向更严重,因为他们对于学科知识的兴趣远远大于学生。很多抽象复杂的问题在他们看来是如此简单而显然,可学生们却总是无法理解。

66、总的来说,INTP属于与世无争但同时充满超凡智慧和洞察力的类型,自信、冷静而独立的思考与分析是这类人最擅长的动作,同时由于他们的IP倾向,他们并不急于要让自己的思考与分析达到某个现实的结果,而是陶醉在这个过程当中,进行着各种思想实验和智力游戏,从而在追寻真理的精神道路上孤独地前进着。

67、INTP型的人几乎没有情绪,无视批评和赞美,生性喜欢当旁观者。他们没有要影响别人的强烈动力,也没有伤害或冒犯他人的意图,INTP对他人感受的关注度正常情况下基本是零,更多时候他们只想表达自己真实的看法而已。他们通过逻辑推理过程与感受自我成长获得成就感。

68、INTP对概念的把握非常精准。如果很快做完MBTI问卷而没有疑问,很可能不是INTP。因为某些题的选项仅仅给出一些词汇而没有进一步事例说明其真正含义,INTP会认为题目有歧义,从而无法做出有依据的判定,甚至于某些INTP会因此而无法继续进行测试。

69、INTP是足智多谋、有独立见解的思考者。他们重视才智,对于个人能力有强烈的欲望。

70、工作原则性强,标准高,对自己和对别人的要求都很严格。他们不会被别人的冷遇和批评干扰,喜欢以自己的方式做事。

71、天生好奇,无论是由于工作本身的需要还是出于长远的考虑,他们很喜欢不断地吸取知识。

72、概念主义者”喜欢能够提供自由、变化和需要有较高的智力才能完成的工作,不喜欢简单、重复的工作。他们喜欢看到自己的想法 能够得到实施。“概念主义者”会对那些他们认为不够能干的人不耐烦,喜欢与很有能力的上司、下属、同事共事。许多“概念主义者”型的人推崇权力,易于被有权力的人和权力地位所吸引。

73、由于有时给自己定了不切实际的高标准,可能对自己和他人的期望过高;易于像紧逼自己工作一样去逼着别人工作;常常不希望别人对抗自己的意愿,有时给人顽固、死板的印象;易于过份强调工作,从而损害了家庭的和谐;常常不记得花时间夸奖同事、下属或其他人;常常忽视了一些工作中所需要的社交礼仪;有时没有注意到他人的情绪感受,从而给人冷漠、不近人情的印象;有时会因忽略了细节而没有注意到周围环境的变化;易于过于理论化而不考虑实际情况,易受远景规划诱惑,难以具体落实;有时想法太多,不知道哪些切实可行,不知道真正应该做什么 。

74、如果你没有机会运用自己的才能,或得不到赏识,会感到沮丧,爱打嘴仗,好争论,冷嘲热讽,消极的批判一切。

75、你对解决问题非常着迷,极善于发现想法中的缺陷,却很难把它们表达出来,你对常规的细节没有耐心,如果事情需要太多的琐碎细节,你会失去兴趣,也会因计划中很小的缺陷而陷入困境,你绝不容忍任何一点不合逻辑。

76、在任何领域里的精通(这需要在理解后不断的练习)并不是他们的驱动力。驱动力是理解未知事物。INTP最感兴趣是那些他不完全了解的事物,对于他成功分析并了解的任何事物,他会迅速失去兴趣并厌烦。

77、INTP力求可以立于事外。他很乐意充当一个中立的观察者。事实上,INTP们常常会变得远不及他们认为的那样客观,那正好是不发达的感情侵蚀了他的行为的时候。

78、不合逻辑的陈述或冒犯了INTP的原则时,这种超脱就停止了。INTP会立刻准备澄清事情、情况。这是他的使命,并怀疑他是唯一一个能完成此项任务的人。INTP里很少有真正傲慢自大的人,因为他们并没有支配他人的欲望。当观点被澄清后,INTP迅速退出,因为除非绝对必要,他不愿成为引人注目的焦点。因此在大部分时候,INTP们都很容易与他人相处,继续扮演着观察者的角色。

79、INTP不关注技能的熟练程度,而关注是否拥有这项能力。如果一个INTP决定去学习某种技能,最重要的是达到足够的程度,以避免犯基本的错误。INTP们无法忍受自己任何形式上的不完美(虽然不追求最好,但绝不能太差)。精确的能力需要很多的努力,但却只有很少的吸引力,实践与练习常常让INTP产生厌倦。INTP们涉猎到很多事物中,认为具备这个能力就足够证明自己了,浅尝辄止。他们自认为,只要他们愿意的话就能变得更精通,但实际上他们很少费心去提高他们的技巧,使之更进一步。

80、独立性,INTP高度重视个性。独立性涉及到很多方面,能力就是其中之一。当他对某件事感兴趣的时候,INTP一定会胜任它。但确实有很多让他不感兴趣的事物,这些事物中某些是其他人在行的而且被认为是每个人都应该会做的事。INTP经常用“不相关”这样的词来定义这些事,这其实是他在这方面缺乏能力为自己找的借口罢了。而且,如果他最初希望去完成某事但却失败了,那么他一定会认为是因为不相关。

81、别人的看法在他们心中基本是无足轻重的,所有的看法都必须符合可行性验证。权威的头衔并不能影响一个INTP。所有的人,都要服从同样的审视。无论是否有公平的主张、见解,INTP把自己看做独立的仲裁者。然而,当某人已证实他有明智的看法而且得到证明时,他将会得到INTP极大的尊重。最大的尊重是献给那些既明智又能创新的的人,智力是最被高度评价的。

82、独立性,主要来自于强烈的内省思考,可能导致了INTP大部分的难题,换句话说叫顽固。如果一个INTP被强迫去做某事,他就会不自觉地抵制。抵制的原因仅仅在于,任何行为必须首先经过Ti的过滤和Ne的引导。他需要去独立思考得出结论。因此,他必须退出做这件事,以便分析。如果不允许退出,那么会不可避免地产生顽强抵抗的结果。让INTP去做事情的最好方式就是提出一个想法作为选择,并让他稍迟些再做决定。最后,INTP一定相信那是他自己的决定。一旦他确信这个决定是独立做出的,那他就会很满意。

83、大部分INTP认为知识就是一切。他们相信信息是是生命的关键,在正确的时间和有正确的信息情况下,所有的错误都能避免。认识某件事物就是全部了,至于做就次要多了。这在无形中滋养了惰性。INTP时常仅仅满足于只要他愿意,他就能做某事就行了。这也导致了过高估计个人能力的危险,而且会错过掌控事实的机会。

84、INTP严谨的天性让他们对于嘲笑和玩笑几乎免疫。如果某人试图在INTP兴趣方面制造讥讽和嘲弄的评论,那后者将以一种纯粹甚至天真的严肃来精确解释他的立场作为防卫。这使那些没有料到会有如此尖锐的防卫的嘲弄者投降。INTP们的防卫通常也夹杂着一种微妙而尖锐的反击,主要因为,他们不能完全掩饰其认为对手如此愚蠢的想法。这种面对面的对峙可能迅速发展成身体上接触,这种危险是INTP需要注意的。

85、由直觉引发的Ti认为,世界是一个可供研究的对象,并且存在种种变化及塑造的可能。如果他的内省太强,那他的方案趋向于停留在个人和思索阶段:世界仍然是值得思考学习的对象,但实际上他的构建计划却很难付诸实施。在另一方面,有建造者或者发明家之称的ENTP,因其Ne是支配功能,常以积极行动去塑造世界。INTP有同样的精神,只是他建设性的天赋倾向于发展他的个人业余爱好,而很少直接牵扯到他人。

86、在讨论的时候,直觉功能的外倾性变得很明显,尤其是激动时。与INTJ形成鲜明对照的是,一个INTP常常提出有争议的、冒险的不实用的观点,使别人对他们产生了,他是很严肃对待他说的话的这样一种印象。而实际上,INTP自己都不确定他说的话是否真的站的住脚,但他的Ne强烈地暗示一定有个事实的核心在里面。他在直言不讳的提出论点的同时,其实是在观察听众的反应,以此来建立直观理解,并检测、修正自我逻辑。INTP想一点说一点,是在反馈中认知事物,所以会被认为轻率不得体。

87、INTJ就像个下象棋的人,沉思于可能性然后下出准确的决定性的一着。如果也把INTP看做下棋的,他总是会希望以不同的方式更改落下的棋子,以实现他的策略最佳,如果发现不对,就会要求游戏重来。

88、外倾直觉会对INTP如何看待他和别人之间的相互作用产生强烈的影响。正是因为Ne,INTP最喜欢向别人展示。他乐于被看作是有点古怪、创新、感知敏锐的人。梦想着他愿意变成什么或者达到什么,他的目标总是高度地个人化。他可能成为创作者、独奏者、有独特发现的天才科学家。如果要受到瞩目的话,那他一定要站在舞台中央。如果在他感兴趣的领域里,他无法站在舞台中央,那他就会退出并采取刻薄的批评的行动。但在所有他不怎么感兴趣的方面,他很乐意把这让给别人并在一旁观察。INTP就是这么极端,要么得到所有要么一无所获,他不喜欢中庸,就像他不喜欢在团队和合作中受到约束一样。

89、幽默是INTP表现出的另一面。他几乎能在任何场合设想出一些玩笑来。将事物引出当前环境,是幽默的主要来源。Ne是这种玩笑生成器的引擎。INTP制造的幽默是相当滑稽而发散的,且不易让别人理解。问题在于Ne的玩笑概念只被Ti所引出成一种结构。因此,这种幽默常成为一种冷笑话而且不老练,没有掺入多少感情因素。相对于由Se主导的笑话,INTP们的笑话常显得无趣味,也许是因为他们自然而然地谈话时太不关注细节。如果你看见某人傻笑或者因某些个人想法而发笑,没有任何明显的理由,他很可能是个INTP。

90、在大部分确定的约会到来前,他们感到明显的不安,而且无法放松下来,直到预定的事件结束,或者至少在进行中。然而,问题往往没有想像中那么可怕,事情的解决也常常伴随着满足感(INTP会把事情考虑到最坏,考虑各种可能性,然后准备的比较充分,而真正的问题通常不会那么糟糕,所以解决起来很轻松。INTP就很有成就感,就可以relax下来)。因此行动就是INTP可取之处,因为取得成就感常超过初期的理解。一旦他们开始行动,他们也能享受社交约会。

91、独立的INTP同样抵制服从他人制定的计划。忠诚的支持别人并不是问题,问题在于他是不是被强迫的。(这是说INTP自己讨厌制定计划,也不服他人的,所以说帮人没问题,但帮不帮就得看他高兴了)。

92、INTP友谊的发展速度很大程度上取决于对方,INTP讨厌采取主动,且倾向于回馈他人情感。在这种感觉下,INTP们尊重他人的直觉感知(胜于行动),这导致他们就像变色龙一样。INTP为了能融入别人能迎合许多不同的行为模式,甚至是在对立面上。目的是获得足够的直觉信息用来分析和评估人。这样,INTP就有所保留,绝不完全把自己和周围的事物看成一样的。像变色龙一样,因此INTP是开放和易接近的,除非Ne告诉他那个人不是他喜欢的类型,在这种情况下保留的态度显得尤为明显。当讨论某事时变色龙行为能变得特别强烈。INTP甚至可能争论某些连他自己都不太相信的事,有时这是智力刺激他从不同的立场上去参与争论的挑战。另外,这也可能是为了在对形势已经做出评估前避免早期的冲突。变色龙们隐藏他们真实的自我。INTP们不会嘲笑做这样的事,甚至在任何时候,但是这是为保留独立和观察而生的强烈愿望的结果。

93、当一个INTP遇见另一个INTP或者性情相似的人时,几乎就是一瞬间,友谊飞速地发展。他们之间的交流会变得极其强烈,让外人难以理解。当2个INTP相遇,所有的社交仪态和主客礼仪形式都显得毫无关联,双方都只想分享观念和兴趣以及关注他人的智力激励。任何的社交需要打断了这种过程都是恼人的。这一对经常把周围的事物忘的一干二净,这在外人看来似乎很好笑。礼节性的问候例如“你好吗?”也许仅能能被给与或者收到漠不关心。对话更可能以“嗨,我想我已经可以解决如何改变Borg指令协议使之能通过子空间发送而不妥协于他们通用的远程连接”之类的开场。先正确让他人知道关于自己已经开始做的事,随后,在一个小时的讨论关于最新的电脑技术的发展之后主人才会在为客人上上一些饮品,那时客人可能发觉那是他已经渴了的缘故。最爱的谈论主题是科学和科幻、音乐、计算机以及任何一种当前迷人的抽象概念。

94、一对一的交谈在大多情况下是首选。在团体中,INTP们对于别人是否相信自己的意见而意见又能否被倾听很敏感。如果一个重要(强烈外倾和喧哗的)人物在场,INTP将会退缩并生气,他相信这个有统治力的人像个畜生(注:原意)。如果INTP发表意见,他是一定要被倾听的,因为他相信自己的意见很重要。如果不是这样,他会退出(至少在精神上),并设想不听他的人缺乏智慧。因此,INTP很少成为伟大的领袖,因为他们太在乎别人的态度了。这是Ne功能的一个消极方面。INTP们倾向于跳出直觉结论,变的相信宿命,而很少坚持下去。另一方面,他们能成为领导们很好的助手,只要上下一心,因为他们感觉敏锐的分析能给忙于领导的领导阶层提供他们无暇顾及到的有用的洞察力。INTP们的理想是为方案提供所有想法,以及有个能赞同他们和能完成他们想法的超凡魅力的领导。INTP执行他自己想法直至完成的唯一领域,就在他个人感兴趣的世界里,那里与其他人毫无瓜葛。就因为这个原因,INTP们着迷于计算机和互联网技术。大部分专用计算机的奇才都是INTP。

95、INTP心目中的楷模得有个性,有创意,恐怕还得带些神秘主义。走自己道路的革新者通常备受推崇。著名的历史人物中能受到INTP尊敬的多为科学家,作曲家,发明家,革命领袖及其推进社会的崇高理想。总的来说,个性是关键,洞察力是最被重视的。(视野,有远见的,就是要以发展的眼光看问题,鼠目寸光最为所鄙)。

96、Ne-Ti坐标轴同样导致了INTP奇怪的思想二元性。支配核心Ti倾向于设想在自己生命中扮演一个控制者和组织者的角色,同时Ne行为又好似无拘无束的人,有着几乎天真烂漫的热情。INTP倾向于经历这两种力量的争斗,就像持续不断的拔河一样,双方都没有获得优势而僵持着。他并不受这种二元性打扰,而能诙谐地看待它。如果他已经长期处于无拘束的状态,他不久会感到责任没有履行,开始分析自己的行为,并将其系统化。当他已经暂时进入一种分析模式时,他会很快决定他能做哪些是想要自由地做的。这就是溜溜球现象(就是Ti和Ne的对峙均衡)。通常,INTP们有非常强烈的需求去保持他们外在性,社会跟他们能做的一样简单而整洁,这样他们能专心于他们自己的内在的系统分析和理论的世界。因此,当他们与别人相互作用时他们倾向于维持最少的需求和最少的麻烦。他们宁愿让世界流淌,观察别人弄起的波浪,而不自己去做。当社会化后,Ne模式就成支配的了,除非一个讨论突然出现把INTP卷入Ti大量接管的场合中。在他们私人世界里当然还是Ti主导的。

97、当INTP独自生活的时候,他的家通常是简朴而倾向实用的。物品都只有很少的装饰或者几乎没有点缀,电子设备丰富,任何物品的重要性都仅仅依赖于它的效用。一般INTP家庭的风格都有点落后于潮流,当一个物品被搁在一边暂时不用时,那这个东西就完全被忽略了,直到INTP再用到它。

98、内倾感觉在INTP的私人生活中时常扮演一个重要的角色。当他参观一个地方时,他的Si功能让他最关心的是那里的氛围和心情。在他潜意识里,他将现在所处的坏境的即时体验与以往的记忆联系起来,有时是很遥远的记忆。总是产生历史和普遍性的感知。当度假时,INTP首先喜欢去体验各种场景的氛围,具体的细节与这些没有关联,是不重要的,因而不能很好地记住。然而,那氛围和心情就好像是固定的物体一样会被长久地记忆下来。因为人们在放假时的相遇通常都是琐碎的,INTP宁愿不去凑那个热闹而单独呆在那些气氛很少被打扰的地方。不过,活跃气氛的人也通常被INTP所欣赏。关注过去经历的结果是,INTP属于忧郁的几种类型之一。INTP的忧郁使他天然地会被荒芜的极地、连绵的山脉等文明边缘的宽广地域所吸引。不管INTP实际渴求为何物,它们生根于同一片土壤。INTP灵魂的沃土是个小而舒适的部落,孤立于大范围的中央。

99、INTP们倾向于储藏物品,这帮助巩固与过去的连接。他们很难放开任何他们已经收集(或者创造)了的东西,这也许有种怀旧的意义。他们认为现在感兴趣的东西一定也是在他们以后会感兴趣的。他们的字典里没有“轻率”这个词。INTP们时常喜欢在感兴趣的领域保留数据和条目,特别是在这些条目联系到过去的事情时。收集定期杂志或者其他感兴趣的媒体同样也是INTP们普遍的特性,他们收集的时候都相当认真。然而对这些完整的集合,INTP会更多地在时间上而不是空间上考虑它们,这也就是说他们并不认为这些物品本身很重要,而是在他们印象中很重要。因此,INTP们都是收藏家,只不过他们不是为了收集物品本身,而在于这些东西能唤起以往的记忆,这样就产生了怀旧的情结。INTP收集的一个奇怪问题是,他很典型地不能立即享受到它带来的快乐,那些物品被储存起来是为了方便在以后的某个时候唤起那时的快乐,而常常,这种情况不会发生。它可能永远不会发生,是因为INTP精神上是十分活跃的,他们不断地钻研到新的兴趣里去了,然后又开始收集关于这些的新东西,所以他们很少能有足够的时间允许自己回顾那些过往的宝藏。INTP的兴趣多的足以占用他几辈子的时间。

100、摄影是INTP的一个典型的兴趣,这强烈依赖于Si-Ne的联合,也联系到Ti对技术细节的关注。比如,山水风景照,就是Si将心境(或者气氛)的感觉传达给接受者。Ti核心使INTP可以正确运用镜头、滤色镜等,当看到这个世界是如此的迷人而留心观察,并希望以一种最佳可行的方式捕捉这瞬间时,这种享受使Ne-Ti构造显示出来。照片也是捕捉现在,而为了在以后能唤起以往感觉的一种方式(Si)。当专注于肖像画或者人物摄影时,INTP也首先关心的是从人的眼中传达出的心境,而照片质量、摄影技巧、内在比喻都通常成为INTP的第二天赋,并能很好地做出职业选择。当注视照片,翻阅杂志时,最重要的是关注那些照片是如何传达的,它的心境,它的色彩,对比度及明暗的使用,它的远景及图像质量。然而,从图片里,其他类型所第一关注的主题,却往往不被INTP重视。因此,INTP可能会在讨论图片时传达一种挑剔而非个人的途径,这可能会在某些场合导致冒犯。

101、INTP另一个普遍感兴趣的领域是音乐,这方面Si对它产生强烈的影响。INTP们时常被音乐所吸引,他们的品味也很有深度和广度。确实,他们的3个主要功能Ti、Ne、Si每个都在享受音乐中扮演着自己的角色,音乐也正是一个用来使内心隐藏的情感显示出来的兴趣。Si 本身从音乐里带来一种对心境和氛围的迷恋,也带来一种个人怀旧的强烈感觉。所以INTP们常常热衷于忧郁基调的歌曲,这种歌曲能传达一种内省或者深奥的心情。同样地,INTP们很享受那些他们较年轻时(前提是现在仍然欣赏)听过和享受过的歌曲并渴望它流露出的那种乡愁般怀旧的感觉。INTP也会喜欢那些构造复杂的音乐,这得感谢他们的Ti核心。对现代古典音乐,又或是当代的爵士乐的欣赏,对他们来说会很正常。这些音乐类型在单独听完后通常太复杂以至于不能被理解,因此为分析提供了极佳的素材,这让INTP非常兴奋。一旦音乐的基本发展框架被评估,Ne就提供了推动力从每一小块里导出通常的含义,比如,歌曲的创作者到底想要传达什么?为什么选中那样独特的发展?确实,Ne常常在倾听的过程幸苦地工作着,试图去掌握歌曲在迷人的世界声音唤起的结合背后的含义,以及结构的发展和怀旧的印象。

102、情感和情绪被看做是不确定性的,也许会被INTP所恐惧,因此他倾向于避免考虑和表现它们。同时,他可能经历某种对感情世界的迷恋,但是他会不顾一切地对这方面的任何想法做客观处理。他会强迫自己不停地分析他的情感,核心Ti一点一点地压制了隐性的Fe,用“不合理”的谴责来攻击Fe。他强忍着不让自己的情感外露,害怕这样做将会被一种未知的力量所控制。(印证了INTP不喜欢有东西支配它,特别是不明确的东西,实际上INTP自己被自己的强烈Ti给支配了)。他相信与逻辑相比情感只是个次要的物质,他天生的目标就是去用纯粹的理性去征服他的情感。

103、INTP在处理自己情感方面是不成熟和不发达的。事实上,他的情感显露时是十分直接而容易把握的。因为INTP通常希望隐藏自己的情感,当他们确实显露出时,他们就迸发出一种天真无邪,有种要么全有要么全无的感觉。当显露时,INTP的情感就完全没有神秘感了:确实,隐藏功能总是显得相当原始和基本。对于INTP来说,情感是神秘的,难以控制。因此,INTP对情感的恐惧其实来源于它的不可控性。当一个INTP终于对什么东西有反应时,他的情绪确实会变得难以控制,原始并且开放。然而,当看到他人的情绪反应,INTP坚决的抗拒自已身上有任何类似的情绪。

104、在INTP使用音乐的时感情的神秘感也很明显。他总是选择去听那些符合他当前情绪状态的歌曲。因此,情绪状态被假想成他自己的神秘财富,是不会改变的。与试图影响这种情绪相比,挑选适合的音乐似乎更容易些。然而具有内倾情感的人,Fi,会故意去选择听那些能够帮助他们改变或改善心情的歌曲。INTP们可能绝不会那么做。无论何时,一首歌的风格和他的情绪状态不和谐,他们就会有种不太舒服的感觉。确实,当沉醉于音乐时,显然他们投入了太多的感情。

105、Ne显示了生活中所有的事情都有内在联系,使用者可以通过不同的多元观点看待这个世界。

106、外向直觉就是总是能发现各种可能性。使用者会总是想知道如果这样会发生什么,如果那样会发生什么。他们擅长理解外部环境,而且总是想要知道得更多。他们会疑问,“如果我改变了这个变量,会发生什么事情?”

107、Ne使用者会为自我成长和提高而努力。Ne会让他们变的理想主义并抱有影响世界的欲望。

108、Ne使用者同时也有联系模糊事物的能力。他们可以把两个看似毫不相干的话题联系在一起。

109、Ne是右脑功能。Ne使用者一般会很有创造力。而这个世界和工作场所一般都是左脑活动的天下,所以Ne使用者如果能够有一个让自己的创造力得到发泄的方法会比较好。不管是通过写作,音乐,艺术或者其他任何可以一个可以表达自我的途径。

110、过多使用Ne的人会总是想要改变。这对恋爱关系中不利。他们会倾向会变得无聊然后在弄明白所有事情之后选择离开。

111、使用Ti的人想要以逻辑思维来弄清这个世界。他们对于这个世界如何运转组织起一个内部框架,并通过人生经历和实践不断地修正这个框架。

112、内倾思考者的目标是创造出一个知识的网络,在这个网络里所有的事物都互相联系着。
比如说,某个Ti使用者可以发现一辆车和车内的零件的工作原理和其他的系统-比如电脑-有关联。
他们有能力在看起来毫不相干的事物之间发现共性。

113、Ti的使用者努力做到有效率。如果什么东西不能有效工作,他们就会变得很沮丧。对于自己觉得无能的老板,他们会很难再为其工作下去。

114、Ti使用者可以被看作是一群想要“以最少的工作量来最有效完成工作的人”。有些人可能会视之为懒惰行为,然而这其实是一种Ti的完美主义。

115、一个Ti使用者可能会需要一点时间来完全消化一个概念。这是因为他们想要知道所有的组成部分还有每一个部分是如何工作的。 他们可能对这种说法不满足,“这是油门,你踩下去就可以前进了。”Ti使用者会想知道,当踩下去会发生什么事情,油门连接到什么地方,还有跟发动机是如何互动的等等。

116、Ti会想创造一个对于世界整体理解。很多Ti使用者看起来好像总是在“抄近路”和侥幸成功。。这会让不理解的其他人或者老板们抓狂。但是实际上,Ti使用者们时限已经花了大量的时间和精力来搞清这个系统,这样他们就可以知道真正需要哪些部分,哪些部分可以省略或者去掉。

117、Ti使用者会非常顽固,而且觉得自己总是对的。尽管大 部分时间他们的确是对的,也有些时候他们忽略了一些事实,而转去考虑那些他们已知的东西。这可能是非常不健康的思维方式而且会导致他们的想法不那么有成效甚至有害。Ti使用者最好能确保他们分析的事物和外部环境观察到的对应得起来。

INTP们有没有加入或创建qq群的呐? (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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想建立一个qq群,供intp们交流互助~

有一种找到组织的感觉呐(*/∇\*)

孤独 (豆瓣 INTP小组)

刚测的,求大神分析下,这性格那些地方需要改进 (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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用另一个测出intp,做组里的测试测出完全相反的,测试差别好大

大家好 (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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我做了测试是intp.第一次极性28,第二次极性47.
我大一,学习数学。最近很迷茫,想好好学习但不能沉下心来。有点担忧未来。我现实与人交流不多,希望能通过网络的途径认识一点朋友,找一点认同感。(我还是很少女心的,比较认可这个mbti测试,在帖子里到处翻来翻去一天了嘻嘻。)
我的微信叫胡家老幺(xuewawahyx),我的豆瓣叫变大变小变漂亮。邀请大家找我玩✺◟(∗❛ัᴗ❛ั∗)◞✺

测出intp,但我觉得不算太准确,求大家帮我分析一下我的测试结果 (豆瓣 INTP小组)


【公告】伪“intp”们,回家吧!不要再流浪了! (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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大家好,我是小李探侠。我使的是“小李飞镖”。
因为我在infp以及infj小组,发起了拨乱反正的大点名,有人也希望我来这里搞一下“大点名”。好吧,本组是mbti中心站的友情小组,我理应相助。
我想指出的是,在这个intp小组,有30%的人其实是伪intp。
至于你们是怎么得出自己是intp这个结论的,大概是做一次问卷就认定类型了吧。学院派经常批评MBTI问卷测不准。这是事实, MBTI问卷会出现约30%的不准确结果。

(声明一下,我点名的全部都是伪intp。但他们具体是哪个类型,待定。)
ps:不要在这里吵,谢谢配合,如果反对点名,我可以不点。我知道当众点名,确实让人难堪。但是,现在事态严重,也只有如此了!

●先看看这里http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_822b1e210101fwk0.html
新手用问卷,高手用品察。品察能力不合格,就会张冠李戴,驴唇不对马嘴。怎么提高自己的品察能力呢?小李探侠来教你几招。请看【大揭秘】之 《品察能力,是关键!》

另外,弄不清自己类型的,看这里https://www.douban.com/group/topic/91209343/

友谊线路宣告BE的INTP。 (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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为了友谊而努力入世,努力包容,
最后还是被xSFx和xNTx之间的差异打败了。
顺便也从内心随和的慈祥老奶奶变成了的内心尖酸刻薄表面又风平浪静的扭曲怪。
偏好一个朋友与自己1v1,which is 非常不现实,痛苦。

厕所凶杀案 (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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今天早上起床去厕所时闻到一股臭味。我猜测是死老鼠的气味。因为厕所里有很多箱子,所以未验证气味来源。

我住在客厅里,是和别人合租的。客厅隔壁是一个储藏室,较远处有一个厕所。房子里一共有3个厕所。

昨天晚上我在储藏室门口放来3片粘鼠板,厕所门口放了2片粘鼠板。今天早上起来发现一只老鼠也没有粘到。但是储藏室的粘鼠板上有2个老鼠脚印。

intp的系统性思维 (豆瓣 INTP小组)

intp (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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路过,这真的是测试出来的吗?有点感觉自己很厉害

INFJ女生和ENTJ女生,哪个更适合INTP? (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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感觉INFJ情感需求太多,ENTJ女生情感互动又太少,怎么办?

个人看法是要看INTP的职业:
1.如果INTP的工作偏理科性质,应该找ENTJ对INTP的事业有很大帮助,INFJ有太多的情感需求且表现得比较暧昧,INTP如果去应付这种情感需求的话,可能会恼乱INTP在工作上的状态;而ENTJ的Te可以很好地和INTP的Ti互补,也不会有太多情感需求,甚至可以对INTP的职业规划和生活节奏提出很高的帮助。有很多ENTJ妹子也会玩游戏或者喜欢一些理论,可以很和谐地进行NT之间的交流。
2.如果INTP的工作偏文科性质,INFJ应该是最佳的,INTP可以很好地去应付INFJ的情感需求,且工作状态不会被扰乱。INFJ对于INTP是神秘的,这个很吸引INTP的好奇心,可以和INTP产生一段相当浪漫可能还很离奇暧昧的感情关系。就是INFJ的敏感和爱啰嗦吵架,需要INTP去应付,INTP往往也是乐于去应付,并且十分理解INFJ。

如果,之讨论感情深度,其他因素不考虑的话,当然是INFJ更好了。个人经验来看,INTP吸引ENTJ,INFJ吸引INTP。这就是选择爱你的人,还是你爱的人的问题了。

最后,亲们,你们是怎么看待哪个更合适呢?

PS:当然,每个发展健康的人格都有在一起的可能性,这里讨论的是最佳类型。

刚做了测试,总觉得T与F的区分有点奇怪啊 (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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刚刚做完
基于荣格心理类型的认知功能维度测试:http://types.yuzeli.com/survey/cognitive/

虽然测试结果跟自己预想的一样是INTP。但对于区分T与F的题目总觉得很别扭。像下面这题:
”14. 坚持以客观可量化的衡量(如收益多少,花了多长时间多少钱)来做决定_____“
还有记得看过有种说法(出处忘了)是T倾向于依靠逻辑做决定,而F倾向于根据价值观(一致)。然而对我来说,无论是客观因素(钱/时间)还是主观因素(满足感)并没有本质区别,都包含在个人效用函数,做决定就是最大化个人效用(满足感)。从这个角度来说,逻辑是主要工具/方法,价值观是公理,价值观决定了我的效用函数,逻辑发现并最大化效用函数。

我相信应该有不少人跟我有类似的观点。不知道大家对此有什么看法,是我对T与F的理解有误吗?

另外有谁有关于MBTI理论的权威著作/论文的,若能分享一下的话感激不尽。

INTP PERSONALITY (“THE LOGICIAN”) (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.
Albert Einstein
The INTP personality type is fairly rare, making up only three percent of the population, which is definitely a good thing for them, as there’s nothing they’d be more unhappy about than being "common". INTPs pride themselves on their inventiveness and creativity, their unique perspective and vigorous intellect. Usually known as the philosopher, the architect, or the dreamy professor, INTPs have been responsible for many scientific discoveries throughout history.

The Unexamined Life Is Not Worth Living

INTPs are known for their brilliant theories and unrelenting logic – in fact, they are considered the most logically precise of all the personality types.
They love patterns, and spotting discrepancies between statements could almost be described as a hobby, making it a bad idea to lie to an INTP. This makes it ironic that INTPs’ word should always be taken with a grain of salt – it’s not that they are dishonest, but people with the INTP personality type tend to share thoughts that are not fully developed, using others as a sounding board for ideas and theories in a debate against themselves rather than as actual conversation partners.

This may make them appear unreliable, but in reality no one is more enthusiastic and capable of spotting a problem, drilling through the endless factors and details that encompass the issue and developing a unique and viable solution than INTPs – just don’t expect punctual progress reports. People who share the INTP personality type aren’t interested in practical, day-to-day activities and maintenance, but when they find an environment where their creative genius and potential can be expressed, there is no limit to the time and energy INTPs will expend in developing an insightful and unbiased solution.

INTP personality
Wisdom Begins in Wonder

They may appear to drift about in an unending daydream, but INTPs’ thought process is unceasing, and their minds buzz with ideas from the moment they wake up. This constant thinking can have the effect of making them look pensive and detached, as they are often conducting full-fledged debates in their own heads, but really INTPs are quite relaxed and friendly when they are with people they know, or who share their interests. However, this can be replaced by overwhelming shyness when INTP personalities are among unfamiliar faces, and friendly banter can quickly become combative if they believe their logical conclusions or theories are being criticized.

When INTPs are particularly excited, the conversation can border on incoherence as they try to explain the daisy-chain of logical conclusions that led to the formation of their latest idea. Oftentimes, INTPs will opt to simply move on from a topic before it’s ever understood what they were trying to say, rather than try to lay things out in plain terms.

The reverse can also be true when people explain their thought processes to INTPs in terms of subjectivity and feeling. Imagine an immensely complicated clockwork, taking in every fact and idea possible, processing them with a heavy dose of creative reasoning and returning the most logically sound results available – this is how the INTP mind works, and this type has little tolerance for an emotional monkey-wrench jamming their machines.

Let Those Who Would Move the World First Move Themselves

Further, with Thinking (T) as one of their governing traits, INTPs are unlikely to understand emotional complaints at all, and their friends won’t find a bedrock of emotional support in them. People with the INTP personality type would much rather make a series of logical suggestions for how to resolve the underlying issue, a perspective that is not always welcomed by their Feeling (F) companions. This will likely extend to most social conventions and goals as well, like planning dinners and getting married, as INTPs are far more concerned with originality and efficient results.

The one thing that really holds INTPs back is their restless and pervasive fear of failure. INTP personalities are so prone to reassessing their own thoughts and theories, worrying that they’ve missed some critical piece of the puzzle, that they can stagnate, lost in an intangible world where their thoughts are never truly applied. Overcoming this self-doubt stands as the greatest challenge INTPs are likely to face, but the intellectual gifts – big and small – bestowed on the world when they do makes it worth the fight.
INTP STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES
Great Analysts and Abstract Thinkers – People with the INTP personality type view the world as a big, complex machine, and recognize that as with any machine, all parts are interrelated. INTPs excel in analyzing these connections, seeing how seemingly unrelated factors tie in with each other in ways that bewilder most other personality types.
Imaginative and Original – These connections are the product of an unrelenting imagination – INTPs’ ideas may seem counter-intuitive at a glance, and may never even see the light of day, but they will always prove remarkable innovations.
Open-Minded – INTPs couldn’t make these connections if they thought they knew it all – they are highly receptive to alternate theories, so long as they’re supported by logic and facts. In more subjective matters like social norms and traditions, INTPs are usually fairly liberal, with a "none of my business" sort of attitude – peoples’ ideas are what matter.
Enthusiastic – When a new idea piques their interest, INTPs can be very enthusiastic – they are a reserved personality type, but if another person shares an interest, they can be downright excited about discussing it. More likely though, the only outward evidence of this enthusiasm will be INTPs’ silent pacing or their staring into the distance.
Objective – INTPs’ analysis, creativity and open-mindedness aren’t the tools of some quest for ideology or emotional validation. Rather, it’s as though people with the INTP personality type are a conduit for the truths around them, so far as they can be expressed, and they are proud of this role as theoretical mediator.
Honest and Straightforward – To know one thing and say another would be terribly disingenuous – INTPs don’t often go around intentionally hurting feelings, but they believe that the truth is the most important factor, and they expect that to be appreciated and reciprocated.
INTP Weaknesses

INTP weaknesses
Very Private and Withdrawn – While INTPs’ intellectualism yields many insights into their surroundings, their surroundings are ironically considered an intrusion on their thoughts. This is especially true with people – INTPs are quite shy in social settings. More complicated situations such as parties exacerbate this, but even close friends struggle to get into INTPs’ hearts and minds.
Insensitive – Oftentimes INTP personalities get so caught up in their logic that they forget any kind of emotional consideration – they dismiss subjectivity as irrational and tradition as an attempt to bar much-needed progress. Purely emotional situations are often utterly puzzling to INTPs, and their lack of timely sympathy can easily offend.
Absent-minded – When INTPs’ interest is captured, their absence goes beyond social matters to include the rest of the physical world. INTPs become forgetful, missing even the obvious if it’s unrelated to their current infatuation, and they can even forget their own health, skipping meals and sleep as they muse.
Condescending – Attempts at connecting with others are often worse than INTPs’ withdrawal. People with the INTP personality type take pride in their knowledge and rationale, and enjoy sharing their ideas, but in trying to explain how they got from A to B to Z, they can get frustrated, sometimes simplifying things to the point of insult as they struggle to gauge their conversation partners’ perspective. The ultimate insult comes as INTPs give up with a dismissive "never mind".
Loathe Rules and Guidelines – These social struggles are partly a product of INTPs’ desire to bypass the rules, of social conduct and otherwise. While this attitude helps INTPs’ strength of unconventional creativity, it also causes them to reinvent the wheel constantly and to shun security in favor of autonomy in ways that can compromise both.
Second-Guess Themselves – INTPs remain so open to new information that they often never commit to a decision at all. This applies to their own skills as well – INTP personalities know that as they practice, they improve, and any work they do is second-best to what they could do. Unable to settle for this, INTPs sometimes delay their output indefinitely with constant revisions, sometimes even quitting before they ever begin.
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3. ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIPS
INTP RELATIONSHIPS

When it comes to romantic relationships, INTPs have an interesting mixture of traits that often pleasantly surprise their partners. People with this personality type are always full of ideas, but they have few opportunities to explore their more romantic notions. As with any of their theories, INTPs love sharing with others, and in finally meeting someone where romantic thoughts are appropriate, they show themselves to be excited, enthusiastic, and even playful, flirting with word-play and intellectual games.

None of this is to say that these relationships come easily to INTPs – they are shy and withdrawn individuals, and getting out and meeting new people, risking rejection and making themselves the center of attention in emotionally delicate situations are far from being their strengths. It is more likely that INTP personalities will leave a trail of breadcrumbs for a potential partner, allowing them to make the first move and committing to their partner as an act of reciprocation rather than bravado.

Marry! A Good Wife Makes Happiness, A Bad One, Philosophy

From the start, INTPs take their relationships seriously – their imagination and vision, and the challenge of getting to know new people, make them all too aware of how important it is that they’re involved with someone, and they will prove themselves surprisingly loyal. Even early in the dating phase, INTPs are unusually direct and honest, doing their best to express their mindset and create mutual understanding, believing that this shared knowledge will help to minimize misunderstandings and avoid conflict.

As their relationships progress, INTPs’ daily needs prove remarkably simple. Gifts, surprises, complex social plans and date nights are all fairly unimportant to people with the INTP personality type, but this is also one of their chiefest weaknesses – their partner may very much need these things, and it won’t even occur to INTPs to plan them out. For all their analysis and attempts at mutual understanding, INTPs are notoriously bad at picking up on others’ emotional needs.

INTP romantic relationships
When it comes to conflict, there is a certain willful ignorance for INTPs, and they often set aside their partners’ feelings, and their own, for far too long.
When these conflicts do arise and are inescapable, INTPs will do their best to find a logical solution. But this hardly helps if the problem is logic itself, that INTP personalities aren’t meeting their partners’ emotional needs. INTPs should keep this in mind, and try to meet their partners halfway by communicating on an emotional level – if they make this effort, understanding partners will recognize and appreciate the gesture, clumsy though it may be. After all, they need to afford INTPs the same benefit, and meet them halfway with logic and simplicity as well.

Beware the Barrenness of a Busy Life

All this material asceticism and conflict avoidance support one primary goal – to free up mental resources for more important things. INTPs’ creative, vivid imagination make for a surprisingly enthusiastic, passionate, and romantic partner. While INTPs may prioritize their inner world too much, imagining interesting and exciting intimate situations that are never expressed to their partners, they also use this rich inner world to achieve as much as possible in intimacy – they rarely want for ideas.

Physically, intellectually and with a little effort emotionally, INTP relationships are rich and rewarding connections. Partners who share the Intuitive (N) trait are usually best, along with one or two opposite traits to create variety and balance, but so long as INTPs remember that they are with people who have their own, independent wants and needs, and so long as their partners remember the same of their INTPs, these are long-lasting and satisfying relationships.
INTP FRIENDS

Many of the usual motivations for making friends – emotional support, social validation, shared routine – simply don’t apply to INTPs. More likely, these concepts are met with disdain, as people with the INTP personality type prize intellectual depth above all else. It is not easy to become good friends with INTPs, but if there is a common interest and a common train of thought, the connection is likely to spark instantly, surprising everyone else who thought they had this distant personality type pegged.

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Be Slow to Fall Into Friendship...

INTP friendships are knowledge-based, defined by the exchange of ideas, theories, and concepts, and those who aren’t able to keep up with this, or who have sharply differing tastes (don’t talk to INTPs about celebrities) will find stony faces that border on rude. To INTPs, communication is often more of a nuisance than a pleasure, and conversation is reserved for topics that they find meaningful, or for people they already like enough to stick it out.

Unless there’s a natural affinity for this intellectual style, few have the patience to try to penetrate their shields, and INTPs are left with a naturally small circle of good friends.
Other Analyst types are a natural fit for INTPs, who share their passion for new ideas, riddles and solutions. People with the INTP personality type are knowledgeable and intelligent, and have a great deal of respect for those who can keep them on their toes in this regard. They will gladly help to tackle any dilemma thrown their way, offering up sound advice and rational solutions. As valuable as these qualities are though, they are not always the best approach – when it comes to emotional support or advice in dealing with matters of the heart, INTPs are at a loss.

It’s not that INTP personalities don’t feel – quite the contrary, they actually have very strong sentiments. But Feeling (F) is one of INTPs’ least developed traits, making their emotional reactions strong, untrustworthy and naturally in need of being tempered by their well-trained logic and rationalism. Still waters run deep.

...But When in Friendship, Continue Firm and Constant

While they may not be able to help directly with these sorts of problems, INTPs help indirectly with unambiguous and reliable friendships. INTPs’ friends need never worry about power games or emotional baggage – they are liked for their minds and abilities, not their status or possessions. While it may not be easy to establish true friendships with INTP personalities, once the link is made, they will provide years of understanding and thought-stimulating ideas, making them well worth the effort.
INTP PARENTS

In parenting roles, as with many social roles, INTPs find themselves facing a robust but healthy challenge. Not a naturally sensitive type, INTP personalities struggle to identify with the raw emotions and irrationality that are often the standard with young children, who have yet to develop the sort of self-control and logical thinking that INTPs take for granted.

People with the INTP personality type are nevertheless incredibly devoted – perhaps not in the traditional, emotionally supportive sense, but they are parents who are committed to encouraging their growing children to think and act independently, seek out new knowledge, and voice and defend their own opinions.

INTP parents
For INTPs knowledge is key, and they will do their best to give their children the tolerance and freedom necessary to acquire it. INTP parents take a relaxed, intellectual approach towards their children, allowing them to explore the world around them and overlooking the more minor offences along the way.

Having no interest in exerting control over other human beings, INTPs are likely to allow their children to form their own principles – though they may take the opportunity of the "why?" phase to share their own perspectives and ideas, just in case.
INTP personalities are not particularly demanding parents, at least not in the sense that they expect their children to live a traditional life of school/career/marriage/house/kids/retirement (and in that order, thank you very much). Rather, INTP parents are demanding in an intellectual sense – they want their children to ask if this path is the best path for them, and how to go about following a different one if they need to. This level of personal freedom can be daunting, and can take a long time to come to terms with, but INTP parents are prepared to stand by their children with support and advice for as long as they need.

While there is hardly a better parent for having rational, intelligent discussions with their children, there is hardly a clumsier example when it comes to providing the emotional support that many children need, especially as they approach their teenage years. In this area, INTPs will need to either rely on a more capable partner, or to take themselves far out of their comfort zone in order to empathize without trying to clear away the tears with an endless series of rational suggestions and blunt truths.

Not Just Life, but Good Life

INTPs want nothing more than for their children to grow up smart, independent, and tolerant, but if they want them to be well-adjusted too, they must make this effort. INTPs’ parenting style affords a great deal of latitude for their children, but with this freedom comes responsibility, and it is INTPs’ responsibility to ensure that it is used constructively. Though it’s a challenge for people with the INTP personality type to teach empathy alongside rationality, if they are able to pull it off, their children will grow into confident adults who know how to ask questions, use their minds, and take care of themselves no matter what comes their way.
INTP CAREERS

INTPs are solitary, eccentric, and independent – none of which is listed as desirable for corporate positions, which are usually designed for very different personality types. INTPs duly struggle in finding careers that meet their needs, but what they do bring, qualities in much higher demand, are creativity, a passion for theoretical methods and ideas, and an entrepreneurial, innovative spirit. If they are able to put this better foot forward to secure a position in a suitable line of work, people with the INTP personality type will find that, whatever the job listing says, these "less desirable" qualities will prove an asset after all.

INTP personality
A Poem of Numbers

Chief among INTPs’ interests is exploring and building models for underlying principles and ideas, even going so far as to find these concepts, in their own way, beautiful – this makes them natural mathematicians, systems analysts, and career scientists, especially in more abstract fields such as physics. There are many other careers that allow INTPs to explore these interests, but many of them are far too rooted in uninteresting practical applications. As useful as it is to develop a better vacuum cleaner, it is no Large Hadron Collider.

INTP personalities are self-driven and have very high personal standards – "good enough" is never good enough – but have few environmental needs. Despite this relative simplicity, they are often hard for more people-centric types to understand. INTPs live primarily in their own heads, and have little interest in social distractions like chitchat and motivational speeches.

All INTPs really want is to immerse themselves in an interesting project, and anything that interrupts that, be it overactive managers, the need to manage others, or office parties or meetings, are simply unwelcome burdens.
For this reason, the flatter the workplace hierarchy, the better, making small, technical workplaces and fields such as law, forensics, and laboratory research very desirable for INTPs. Insightful and open-minded managers who can accommodate these needs will find their INTP subordinates to be a tireless generator of brilliant and unique ideas. However, many people with the INTP personality type may do away with the immediate hierarchy altogether, opting instead to provide their services on a freelance basis as consultants.

Emotional Values: A Mere Illusion

Where INTPs do not thrive is in workplaces that require them to provide a high degree of emotional satisfaction – cruise ship masseuses they are not. INTP personalities struggle to understand emotional exchanges, and service-oriented positions will prove baffling and exhausting for them. Though INTPs are talented analysts who are perfectly capable of understanding the theoretical importance of customer service, the day-to-day application of such a scheme is simply better left to more people-oriented personality types.

Business is growing more complex every day, and this complexity is managed with technical systems, economic theories, and data. The need for novel approaches is stronger than ever for people and organizations to distinguish themselves. Though general people skills are often phrased as a must, it is the technical work that creates something to talk about, and it is in this pursuit that INTPs thrive.

Work as business analysts and corporate strategists is well suited to INTPs, but they can also move things forward as data analysts, mechanical, electrical and software engineers, and even as technical writers and journalists, provided the field is interesting enough. If they can smile and shake hands just long enough to establish themselves as the brilliant innovators that they are, people with the INTP personality type will find that whatever the expectations for social conduct, it is the qualities unique to them that are truly in demand.
INTP IN THE WORKPLACE

The running theme for INTPs is their desire for solitude, need for intellectual stimulation, and the satisfaction of the final piece of a puzzle clicking into place. Whether in subordinate or management positions, with colleagues or working alone, these privileges and the freedom to pursue them unfettered by social obligations and progress reports are about all people with the INTP personality type look for in their workplace.

Though INTPs may scoff at the notion, they actually function best when paired with another person. Their position determines which personality type best fits their needs, but INTPs’ tendency to live in their heads and vent inspiration and creativity seemingly at random demands the presence of an implementer, preferably a Sentinel, to ensure that no stroke of genius goes unnoticed.

INTP workplace habits
INTP Subordinates

Under the right conditions, INTP subordinates are innovative, resourceful, and hard-working, easily wrapping their minds around whatever complex problems are placed in front of them and delivering unorthodox but effective solutions. However, these qualities require a great deal of freedom, something stereotypical managers are loath to cede. It is difficult to quantify these qualities on a resume – several other characteristics, like a relative indifference to job security and to being liked, exacerbate the challenge – and it can take time to grow to trust INTP subordinates enough to allow this latitude.

INTP personalities prefer to work alone, but at the same time they despise "grunt-work". Their focus on conceiving new and exciting ideas and ignoring the details of execution means that INTPs need someone alongside to keep things in order and actually put into practice their often unrefined ideas. Such a condition can’t be forced on INTPs, but a few logically phrased criticisms (certainly not emotional appeals or pep talks about working as part of a team) and clever management can make it happen.

INTP Colleagues

For INTPs, colleagues aren’t so much a group of people who they socialize and work with as they are a series of obstacles and diversions with occasionally useful knowledge. Mingling, chitchat, drinks after work – these make INTPs want to work alone, not get up in the morning. Despite this distance, people with the INTP personality type are unusually good at developing insightful and unbiased interpretations of others’ motivations, though sometimes they overthink it, becoming unnecessarily suspicious of others’ goals.

What they do enjoy are riddles and patterns, and any INTP would be proud to be the guru who is sought after as arbiter on the validity of an idea, or for their insight on how to apply a principle to novel situations. INTPs love discussing theories, at least with "proven" colleagues, and are almost always available as impromptu consultants. This, however, does not apply to emotional riddles and conflicts, INTPs’ Achilles Heel – in these charged situations, INTP personalities have no clue what to do.

INTP Managers

While INTPs don’t care for managing other people, it is likely the most rewarding position as it provides the opportunity to direct concepts and theories while others handle the logistics. INTPs have a very tolerant and flexible style, characterized by an openness to logical suggestions and relative freedom for their subordinates. But this freedom comes at a cost – INTP managers have very high standards, and they expect others to grasp their insights instantly, and to provide their own in equal measure.

As well as their demand for innovation, INTPs are better than any other type at noticing logical discrepancies – their tendency to ignore others’ feelings means that their criticisms often come hard and fast as they direct projects to their own perfectionistic standards. Here again INTPs do best with a partner, this time a delegator who can filter their thoughts and direct their team in more socially productive ways. A liaison can also help to deter schmoozing and attempts at emotional manipulation, a sure mistake for anyone who tries.
INTP PERSONALITY – CONCLUSION

INTPs’ intelligence and logical reasoning skills are a force to be reckoned with. Be it a minor debate or a life-changing decision, INTPs will find it easy to entertain multiple ideas and keep a cool head. This allows INTPs to overcome many challenging obstacles – yet they can be easily tripped up in areas where careful and rational thinking is more of a liability than an asset.

Whether it is finding (or keeping) a partner, making friends, reaching dazzling heights on the career ladder or learning to make difficult decisions, INTPs need to put in a conscious effort to develop their weaker traits and additional skills.

INTP personality
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关于intp执行力低的粗略看法 (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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1.intp执行力底其实是代入感的缺乏(即si或者ni功能的缺乏,某种程度上说,tj型的人较高执行力能够印证这一点)。si功能的发展自然会提高intp的执行力。
以前认为执行力的底下是缺乏目标性,然后给自己定一些目标,发现并不能坚持。(又回到执行力低不能坚持的循环)
2 .解决办法,发展si或者将自己的思考力发展到极致(纯理论或者规划类的工作)。
3.关于发展si,暂时没有什么思路。不知道各位同胞有什么看法。

ne对intp的解脱 (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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今天开始看entp的物理学家理查德费曼的<发现的乐趣>,有了一些启发。
在这之前的很长一点时间里面,我都处于一种沉闷的状态中。学东西学不进,看书总是觉得为什么这书写得这么空洞无物啊。大概是过于早进行判断(ti)的副作用。
关于ne对使intp的生活更有意义的相关东西小组里面有文章发过,但是具体原因,应该是ti过早下判断,再加上不成熟的si,导致intp陷入悲观的泥潭。
同时补充此前的帖子,即代入感(si或者ni)缺乏导致intp的执行力底下,ne的发展不完善是主因。
有点乱,只想说作为一个intp应该更多去探索,保持生活中一些事情的不确定性,而不是过早进行判断。

一部描述INTP和INFJ虐恋的电影---《亚当》 (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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男主亚当是患有亚斯伯格综合症的电子工程师兼天文爱好者(目测INTP),女主贝丝是一个幼儿教育者兼少儿童话作家(目测INFJ),INTP&INFJ组合,有兴趣的可以看看再来这里讨论讨论。

本小组有没有的qq群啊? (豆瓣 INTP小组)

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